Excavator 0 Posted November 29, 2015 Division: Counter-Strike In-Game Name: Excavator |FukBoi Steam ID: Steam Community :: Excavator | FukBoi Ban Type: Team Ban Information: Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:139371519 Your Nick Name/In-Game Name: Excavator | FukBoi Reason why you were banned(If you don't know this put n/a): Supposedly freekilling/traping before 7:00 Why should you be unbanned?: After I was banned Owl said that I had freekilled and trapped, so I asked him how I had done this and he never responded after multiple times of me asking. He also said something like it didn't matter if I didn't as I already had 2 ct bans already and that he had reports of me freekilling. 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forest 309 Posted November 29, 2015 @Owl 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaz 0 Posted November 29, 2015 One example of how you were breaking some rules. Look at the log. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excavator 0 Posted November 29, 2015 Ok I accidentally broke a vent or even purposely I don't think that is a 1 week ct ban 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owl 192 Posted November 29, 2015 1. You've been banned from CT multiple times, this is why you were banned for a week rather than a day. You've been here for long enough, you should know the rules. 2. I watched you freekill and tarp, this is what set off the initial ban. Unfortunately I don't have proper evidence for the freekill/tarp, but I had been getting complaints all morning from chaz, pvt. parts, and solaire (who I trust pretty well, they're active members). The freekill was "someone was talking over me when I restricted it" but honestly he really didn't talk over you. Other players can vouch for this, but I don't have a demo. 3. The last few days you've been a rather poor CT, doing minor things like spamming/baiting/tarping/small freekills. These are all slayable offenses, and you've been slayed for them. It adds up. I don't think I need evidence for minor things like single freekills. 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excavator 0 Posted November 29, 2015 1. The player that as talking over me was talking over me first. 2. I did not trap or freekill. After you had ct banned me you even asked me what had happened, showing that you did not see the whole event. Parts, Solaire, and Chaz honestly don't like me and havn't for a while now (besides Chaz today was my first incounter with him). 3. Even If I have been a poor ct in the past few days, there is no marker or counter that counts everyone's minor mistakes. I have done wrong while being warden before, as everyone has, but I was punished for those. That is like when someone gets arrested multiple times for say loitering, when they get caught doing it again you put them in jail for a month or so. Everyone makes small mistakes and the ones i have made, were punished. They shouldn't be brought back up and punished for them again when I do something else. 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owl 192 Posted November 29, 2015 1. The player that as talking over me was talking over me first. erm.. All I can really do to counter this is say he wasn't, but I do accept that I don't have evidence. 2. I did not trap or freekill. After you had ct banned me you even asked me what had happened, showing that you did not see the whole event. Again, no evidence, but I did see the whole event. Parts, Solaire, and Chaz honestly don't like me and havn't for a while now (besides Chaz today was my first incounter with him). I do understand this, and I tried to the best of my ability to not take bias into this. I've seen you break rules, they saw you break rules, they just have confirmed this to me. 3. Even If I have been a poor ct in the past few days, there is no marker or counter that counts everyone's minor mistakes. I have done wrong while being warden before, as everyone has, but I was punished for those. That is like when someone gets arrested multiple times for say loitering, when they get caught doing it again you put them in jail for a month or so. Everyone makes small mistakes and the ones i have made, were punished. They shouldn't be brought back up and punished for them again when I do something else. This is just completely false. If someone freekills once every single round, do you think they deserve to be on ct? They'll get ct banned. Not because of the 1 freekill, but because they've done it every round. Similar applies here. 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pvt.Parts 2 Posted November 29, 2015 How is telling people to leave a pit and restricting ladder and box not considered a trap command? It would be fine if you just did it after 7:00, but you didn't. People reported that you broke rules, there is evidence you broke one rule, and then Owl saw you commit more rule breaking.also Owl stated that he saw you throughout the week breaking rules here and there. you've been on the server long enough to know what is good and what is not. 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pvt.Parts 2 Posted November 29, 2015 3. Even If I have been a poor ct in the past few days, there is no marker or counter that counts everyone's minor mistakes. I have done wrong while being warden before, as everyone has, but I was punished for those. That is like when someone gets arrested multiple times for say loitering, when they get caught doing it again you put them in jail for a month or so. Everyone makes small mistakes and the ones i have made, were punished. They shouldn't be brought back up and punished for them again when I do something else. Even if you did small offenses, you still need to be punished if you broke them, no matter how small they are. Rules are rules. If people break rules when there is no mod on the server doesn't mean they should be allowed to break rules. These rules are there to make sure everyone has a good time in the server. 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excavator 0 Posted November 29, 2015 The thing is I don't free kill every round everyone makes mistakes everyone and then. I make a free kill mistake or something like that around every 10 rounds at least. If I did free kill 1 person every round I wouldn't be making an appeal because I'm not stupid 1 Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c0ldwinds 2 Posted November 29, 2015 to be honest, having a bad attitude and disagreeing with everything they're saying about you isnt a good way to get your ban shortened. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2 1 Snackbar, Chaz and Pvt.Parts reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaz 0 Posted November 29, 2015 The thing is I don't free kill every round everyone makes mistakes everyone and then. I make a free kill mistake or something like that around every 10 rounds at least. If I did free kill 1 person every round I wouldn't be making an appeal because I'm not stupid Well, honestly, don't think that freekilling every 10 rounds is acceptable. IT'S NOT!!! Good CT's don't free kill and if they do they apologize, which is something that you have don't done, nor have you slayed yourself for the free kills. There is more reasons that freekilling for your ban. 1 c0ldwinds reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lithium 302 Posted November 29, 2015 I'm going to have to agree with owl here, multiple freekills do add up. If people are complaining about you as CT or calling freekills when you don't think they were, try to be a less strict warden sometimes. And if you do freekill someone unintentionally, it's best if you immediately apologize and slay yourself rather than wait for a mod/admin to do it. Just wait out the week ban (it's not that long, really) and try to be more careful going into the future. 2 1 Owl, c0ldwinds and Chaz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snackbar 38 Posted November 30, 2015 I'm going to have to agree with owl here, multiple freekills do add up. If people are complaining about you as CT or calling freekills when you don't think they were, try to be a less strict warden sometimes. And if you do freekill someone unintentionally, it's best if you immediately apologize and slay yourself rather than wait for a mod/admin to do it. Just wait out the week ban (it's not that long, really) and try to be more careful going into the future. +1. Ban stands based on priors and the fact that you have been playing here long enough to just simply know better. A week isnt long, in the meantime, apologizing in your ban protest post and showing us youll work on your in game choices will do you lot better than coming in and arguing staff decisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites